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Ringach ceasing primate research due to threats
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xchristinax From: xchristinax Date: August 22nd, 2006 08:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm in some vegan communities and I was expecting this to be posted in one of them with lots of congratulatory comments. I'm REALLY glad to find that's not the case. They always cite "well, they don't harm living beings" in defense of the ALF but sentences like "The explosive was accidentally placed on the doorstep of Fairbanks’s elderly neighbor’s house, and did not detonate." are enough reason for me to be adamantly against them. Stupid, destructive people.
chrissyr01 From: chrissyr01 Date: August 22nd, 2006 08:32 pm (UTC) (Link)
i'm in some veggie communities, but they all seem very open-minded so i doubt they'd have any radicals.
xchristinax From: xchristinax Date: August 22nd, 2006 08:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
veggie is very different from vegan in terms of radicalness. ;) ive just seen many discussions liek this, but in the opposite go-ALF-go slant.
chrissyr01 From: chrissyr01 Date: August 22nd, 2006 08:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
yeah, good point. i just think we should have respect for all living creatures, and not favor any one species over the other.
xchristinax From: xchristinax Date: August 22nd, 2006 08:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
well, supporting animal research is favoring humans over primates, for instance, since they are sacrificed/used in the process. however, i think it's completely okay and logical to use other species for the furthering of our own health.
chrissyr01 From: chrissyr01 Date: August 22nd, 2006 08:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
true, true. i'm just saying that we can't teach that it's wrong to kill animals by killing humans.
deathjoy From: deathjoy Date: August 22nd, 2006 08:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
How do you feel about antibiotics?
chrissyr01 From: chrissyr01 Date: August 22nd, 2006 08:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
haha, i hope you don't think i'm some kinda radical. i'm just saying that we can't have ethics for research animals, but not ethics towards our fellow human beings.
lars_larsen From: lars_larsen Date: August 23rd, 2006 12:35 am (UTC) (Link)
So you dont eat plants? They're species you know.
chrissyr01 From: chrissyr01 Date: August 23rd, 2006 12:42 am (UTC) (Link)
look, i'm not trying to start anything here. please look at my above responses.
lars_larsen From: lars_larsen Date: August 23rd, 2006 01:01 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm vegetarian too, I'm just not so stupid as to say that they're not life.
fleaplus From: fleaplus Date: August 23rd, 2006 12:08 am (UTC) (Link)
I searched around a little and found the following article which seemed rather pleased about the event:


"You Win" were two of UCLA vivisector Dario Ringach’s final words to The North American Animal Liberation Press Office (NAALPO) via electronic communication, evidently in response to unrelenting animal activists.

The NAALPO received an e-mail on Aug. 6 from Ringach, a neurobiologist at the world-renowned university, stating that he will no longer experiment on non-human primates. No specific reason was disclosed, except that he be removed from Web sites exposing his atrocities, and that his family be left alone. There was no mention of regret or plans for atonement.

"The Press Office has received numerous letters of congratulations and done numerous media interviews regarding Dario Ringach's sudden decision to stop torturing animals in his laboratory. Both NPR National and UPI have picked up the story," said Press Officer Dr. Jerry Vlasak. "The Press Office is also in receipt of a press release by the UCLA public relations office confirming Ringach's decision."

Animal activists have unceasingly sought to expose the animal suffering emitting from his laboratory. Ringach’s home has been the target of numerous demonstrations and neighbors were provided with leaflets detailing the researcher's unscientific and unnecessary violence.

A press release from the NAALPO stated that fellow UCLA researcher, Lynn Fairbanks, was the target of an attack by the underground Animal Liberation Front last month, in which an incendiary device was reportedly left on her porch. It also mentioned that Fairbanks is notorious at UCLA for keeping hundreds of Vervet monkeys in cages, purportedly to study psychological and social problems such as substance abuse, criminality and violence.

According to UCLAPrimateFreedom.com, Ringach’s experiments will advance understanding of how monkeys process what they see, and also that he has been approved to kill 30 macaque monkeys for vision experiments, where each moneky is first paralyzed, then used for a single session that lasts up to 120 hours, and finally killed.

"While we do not know at this time whether Ringach made his decision after examining his conscience and deciding to do the right thing because it’s the right thing, or whether he made the decision out of concern for his own safety and that of his family. The animals who will be spared his abuse don't care why he stopped his atrocities, only that he has stopped," Vlasak said.
kotovski From: kotovski Date: August 23rd, 2006 01:27 am (UTC) (Link)
dude, this is priceless

Dario Ringach wants to know how monkeys process what they see. Activists proposed that the only thing Dario sees is dollar signs as he laps at the troughs of the government grant gravy train. He somehow convinces the NIH that learning how monkeys see will yield life-saving benefits for humans. Well, the NIH certainly saves Dario's life each time they send him a big fat grant check! Meanwhile, millions of Americans cannot afford adequate vision care for themselves and their families.

fleaplus From: fleaplus Date: August 23rd, 2006 01:45 am (UTC) (Link)
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